He denies any wrongdoing whatsover, August: The second tranche of inquest hearings began on Wednesday August 7. She feels William is contaminated? Then six years ago, a "monstrous crime" happened, in the words of his foster father. ] seem smaller than it actually is. There were plenty of tears in the public gallery when the foster mother described having to return to Sydney after the initial nine-day search, which covered more than 50 square kilometres. Her part (role) is to say she has to do something. That may have been an important reason for cover up. The foster mother's parents were respected, community-minded residents of the tiny town of Kendall and wereinvolved in a heritage group on the NSW Mid North Coast. Their national pageis littered with posts relating to the disappearance, murder, abuse or assault of young children. So to reiterate, one daughter is introduced with we were which allows for her to bring the language [other daughter] into her statement, so we see there are two introductions made.This brings us to the question where did the other daughter disappear to in the rest of the story? OT Melissa Guse I missed this on my previous post.I wanted to add one more thing I missed.and she's just there, she was just hanging out. Why? If you can reach over and touch someone, thats right here. Notice here that Melissa says they just started driving all around. And on Wednesday they won again, when the Court of Appeal upheld that ruling. It leads to a lot of questions. Michael, yes, I had heard of "The boy in the box"-case but avoided looking into it because that title is so horrible. At least in my gut every day, stronger and stronger, I know we`re going to see Caylee. National; Courts & Law; Inside the William Tyrrell inquest. She was supposed to be at a football game. I found it clear and respectful.Autumn. Similarity with William's mother saying "he hit his head". Never is a reference to time and is weak and vague.Never - at no time in the past or future; not ever. William Tyrrell's foster-mother has broken down on the stand recalling the moment she thought that her son's abductor also planned to take her daughter. Operator: OK.Foster Mother: Ah, I thought it could be five, it could be longer 'cause he was just playing around here we heard him and then we heard nothing. could find them? If you are meant to be searching for a missing person I expect someone to be not just driving around but driving around searching/looking for that person. William Tyrrell's sister has spoken publicly for the first time, telling the inquest not enough is being done to find her brother. This story has been all over the news and no story is presented the same way, yet they all have little bits that can be pieced together. 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September 21 - Police stop searching for the missing boy after scouring surrounding bushland and neighbouring houses. Both uses dont add up so I see deception whichever way you look at it. Can she not come home by herself? I just can't believe it's happened,' she said. CINDY ANTHONY: Jose said that you said that everything would make sense once we found Caylee. According to the timeline, the foster father left Nannas house (for his conference call and for the chemist) at 9.15 AM and police confirmed he was where he said he was. Why the need to specify for a toddler boy that his hair is SHORT?This is unnecessary information and it must imply that the hair is either shaved off or long. And then I thought, I thought, I mean theres like so many thoughts that just go crashing through your brain in a split second. I think you are right we need to take a good look at everything again and see what else there is that connects to William being run over by his father. I am an adult in the autism spectrum and the extraneous comments are too much for me. In the case of William's foster mother: does the world seemingly stop turning when you can't immediately see/hear your child? Right after William had disappeared, the foster mother reportedly told one of the neighbors William had hit his head. Regardless we must note that the operators question is not answered with a direct yes or no. The Mom said "Washing was piling up. If the shortest sentence is the best something went wrong there.I am going to post something now which could open up new possibilities let me know what you think.Adrian. I said wheres he gone? Daily Mail Australia understands the Mazda Hatchback was allegedly driven by his foster mother on September 12, 2014 - the morning the three-year-old vanished. Karlie-Lack of proper social introduction. Thanks again for your explanation. He brings the subject of crossing the street into his language and there is a lot of sensitivity there. In a car? : she didnt hold him because she took a photo, he jumped off, fell on this head and died). Karlies disappearance is not a mere story. Detectives take items for testing including a mattress, computer and vehicles. "Imagine having your son taken away and doing everything to try and get him back, only for him to go missing.". I should have said believed as one can believe in many things without proof of their existence, God or Aliens would be two examples.I [believe] that William was run over by his father by accident. Do they hold a clue as to what happened to William?In one of my previous comments I suggested that the foster mother may have taken a photo of William in the climbing three and that this may have led to his death (e.g. His usage of past tense language adds another flag which should be considered along with everything else. And made harder by the fact that he and his sister were foster children at the time of his disappearance. Thank You to CHP-love you! She also says the children were sending messages. (Post continues after podcast.). The weekend the foster mother had planned included sorting through family belongings, getting the foster mother organised ahead of the Kendall house sale and taking the kids up the road to visit her father's grave. However, a cancelled meeting allowed the family to make the four-hour trip north on September 11, a day ahead of schedule. December 19 - Coroners say William could still be alive and the inquest will determine if he died or not. When we got home, she was still paranoid, almost, like, extremely stoned and, um, we got home and then I had her eat. I watched the first few minutes till I realised that this documentary was based upon William being taken by Bigfoot. So Melissa is being deceptive in her description. One in some sense loses their "height" if they are standing beneath ground like in a well shaft.If his hair WAS parted on the left, you would see a freckle on the top of his head.Why would this "hidden" detail stand out to her? One is a person who saying a lot but telling us nothing and the other is someone who has a need to tell us something but only when they have a need to convince. https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/mrw-productions-llc/crime-stories-with-nancy-grace/e/56896753, OT-Karlie GuseI copied the wrong address for the Nancy Grace interview with Melissa and Zac Guse. She fails to give us where she was and what she was doing at that moment. Why can't you find him? and I said He's gone. If you heard something in the woods which sounded like a bird you would say it sounded like a bird. And so the precise motivation for their tireless and no doubt expensive advocacy for this little boy remains unclear, beyond their stated goal: to create a safer Australia in every community for all our children. I know being somewhere out there is a normal expression in English but I wanted to mention this for completeness sake.Autumn, OT: Karlie GuseUm, you cant do an Amber Alert because she didnt leave in a car and I dont have a physical description of a vehicle.If Karlie didnt leave in a car, why did the stepmother have to add that she didnt have a physical description of a vehicle (is that standard Amber Alert language?). Another indication of that is: she pauses briefly after the word my. At least, I have never seen him broadcast about missing persons, but maybe he publishes these sort of messages on social media? Maybe that was the last image she had of him and why she blurted out the following during the 911 call:"Um, um, um he has oh he's got a freckle on the top of his head when you part the hair on the left hand side () you'll see a freckle on the top of his head." What happened to the 3-year-old boy in the Spider-Man suit is now the focus of an inquest by Deputy State Coroner Harriet Grahame. This caller does not want to be psychologically "alone" with the information. 2. Why cant I see the red?So strange. Of course it may be through sentiment on her part but we must consider it could have other connotations connected to it. And why didnt she say this in the 000-call?I think the foster mom sounds too business-like in the 000 call (even though her voice is shaking a bit). As a wealthy professional from Sydney's north shore worth several million dollars, William Tyrrell's foster mum yearned for little in life. Then shaving it off? Thank You to CHP-love you! Please try again later. And so, if you needed to know all that great. Also you mentioned how they finished the statement with it. And, um, so, um, we hung out for a little bit in the kitchen, talked a bunch, and then her brothers went to bed Her first reference to "hung out", initially I flagged for sounding like she was more a peer than a stepmother. Police searching for missing child William Tyrell are now searching the front yard of his foster grandmother "This morning, officers returned to home of Tyrrell's foster grandmother where he was last seen in September 2014 and began searching an area directly below a second-storey balcony. Mamamia contacted the group, but they were unable to respond in time for publishing. Having William taken away broke his heart. Why did she ask the foster father do you have William had she not seen him since the foster dad left . Also why does she say We know nothing about it instead of We know nothing -> what is it (to me it seems to imply that they know something)?Autumn, Below is a transcript of part of the 60 minutes interview with the foster parents (see here as from 6:44):Foster mother: We wake up, ehm, we hear giggling and laughter and me telling everybody to be quiet and not wake up Nanna cause Nanna was still asleep.Voice over: On that morning William dresses in his favorite Spiderman outfit. Seeing the freckle. So we have big problem, we are led to believe she walked round from the front of the house but are then given conflicting information saying she had just walked out. He was just, its just..Weve got pictures of William riding [this] bike, and there is just [unbridled] joy, just over his face, he was just free, and [he], [we] would have, and he was really good. There is a lot of backstory involved in this case. "She continued to ask where her brother was she was deeply missing her best friend and we had no answers.". OT: Karlie GuseAnd, Im putting this out there because, um, it's going on 10 hours that shes been missing and I want to put this on blast because I dont think shes out in the desert.Wasn't it Casey, Cindy or George Anthony who indicated in a statements that Caylee Anthony would not be found in the woods, (or words to that effect) and yet she was.? In the above quote the foster mother clearly and repeatedly links taking pictures of William to the concepts of passing away and grave (of her late father). There is only one answer to the question but it is specific to the individual who answers.While it is not a direct confession to a crime it is very damaging as exposes huge deception. The entire situation is sad. If so then there is a possibility that the mother had some sensitivity towards her connection to the children which came out in her language. The foster mother of missing boy William Tyrrell has asked police to focus . Both the female police officer and the foster father made a very similar comment about bush and abduction/something more sinister. "These kids are the responsibility of the state, but they are not everyones property.". OT-Karlie GuseMelissa Guse Facebook Live #1 October 13, 2018 @4:30 p.m.(Breathless, gulping water) My name is Melissa Guse, um, if youre gunna to watch this video, please do not have the kids around. He was not at the grandmother's house at that time supposedly to get better phone reception.Also, interestingly, at 12:03 in the first part of the interview it is as if the foster mother has a slip of the tongue saying William is dead. I thought is he hiding from me, wheres he gone, has he come around the other side of the house and we havent seen him, has he decided to go under the house, has he decided to go, you know, anything, I, I didnt know.NOTE: Daddy Tiger was a hide and seek sort of game. I think that she couldve been abducted or taken because we do live by a highway, and, it happens and Im bein realAutumn, From Casey Anthony jailhouse tapes (I'm not sure she ever said anything about woods, but she said she could feel Caylee was not far -> she was found in a wooded area less than a mile from the Anthony house):CINDY ANTHONY: But do you think after this long she`d still be local? Operator: Police emergency, this is Simone. Autumn. CINDY ANTHONY: No. I also find the tiger or lion game questionable: too much emphasis is put onto it. -A missing person is only considered () -> Only considered missing? Just as an (other) example:We just dont have our boy, we justwe have no idea where he is, we dont know whos got him, we dont know whats happening to him, we know nothing about it - we just want it to be over.Could the first just mean that the foster mother is actually comparing in her mind not having their boy with a more complicated situation, e.g. I'm not a murderer! That's not a reliable denial.Like you said it is not a reliable denial. She reports how long weve been searching for him, rather than how long he has been missing. Alicia, youre calling me? The sentence would be fine said as with my mum and daughter, the listener would not be confused with that, and we would be none the wiser. Um, you cant do an Amber Alert because she didnt leave in a car and I dont have a physical description of a vehicle. William, 3, was wearing a Spider-Man suit when he vanished from his foster-grandmother's home in the NSW Mid North Coast town of Kendall on September 12, 2014. Mike Damman,How do you kmow she is tellimg the truth about how long hes been missing! Operator: How long has he been missing?Foster Mother: I th well, I think, well, we've been looking him for him now for about fifteen or twenty minutes butWe can deduce that I th well, I think, well are almost repeated words which indicate sensitivity to the question. In sub zero temperature, hope will not last as long as it will in warmer climates. So the phone being at the house makes her untraceable. If we look at the 911 call we see the time of Williams disappearance given at approximately 10:30.Operator: OK. Six essential household appliances now cost 450 a year to run as prices surge by 58% since the #NoMowMay pits neighbours against each other: Britons are accused of eco-shaming with new green fad that Saboteurs derail Russian freight train with explosives 37 miles from Ukraine and destroy power cables in Pictured: 'Much-loved son', 35, stabbed to death in knife rampage outside Cornwall nightclub which left Leeds players APOLOGISE to their fans and admit 'there's no excuse' for the way they ignored kids waiting to 'I've been stuck in A&E since 10.30pm last night please just pay NHS staff fairly': Tearful A&E patient Martin Lewis reveals how to get a cheaper supermarket shop and FREE food. Go into her mind and picture what she is seeing.She is looking down at him. "William was a jovial and boisterous little boy, his sense of humour and cheeky antics always made us smile," the foster father said. What I have done a few times is post my thoughts about certain cases in this comment section and see if people react to it (sporadically they did, mostly they didn't).Autumn, Full transcript of a 22-minute interview by NSW Police with William's foster parents on this blog:http://williamtyrrelldisappearance.blogspot.com/2015/10/in-their-words-william-tyrrells-parents.htmlAutumn, Many interesting statements in the transcript mentioned in my previous comment, for example:Foster mother: "All these little things that I just remember, it was just, a normal family, doing normal family things, with their grandmother. Two are neighbors that live up here, and the one other person that saw her was a wooder driving by and just saw her standing inside the barbed wire fence. You might have to click back a few times to pick it up, but you will see it. We have been working off a transcript which has been tidied up to make it more reader friendly. We dont know who that someone else is but we can deduce it from her language. Zac said I swear to God and honest to God when talking about Karlie. Or did she mean that William disappeared minutes after she took the picture of him on the patio? The fact she says "my other daughter" says it all. She is telling us that it is only racing, no big deal. I would really appreciate that.Thanks,Autumn. I would have expected the foster mother to start by saying something like: "Every time I look at that photo Im reminded of how much I miss William, how much I love him." The analysis I did on the fathers comment in my previous post showed he said:"I mean, he [wouldnt], hes [not] a wanderer, he [wouldnt] [even] cross the street by himself. A detective has told a court he thinks Tyrrell's foster mother knows where the missing boy is. Clarice, Are the lambs still crying in your dreams? I think she may subconsciously do so to announce important leaks of what happened, see the bold text in the following statements:I want to put this on blast because I dont think shes out in the desert. I want to put this on blast because I dont know what to do to consider her a missing person.At the same time, blast might be a detail in itself -> What if she fell and hit her head?The stepmother repeatedly says with regard to Karlies possible location: out in the desert. It wasnt a major newspaper, or a commercial current affairs program. "Please help my family, most of all me, find our precious William.". One more comment on the photo question: At one point in her answer the foster mother says:And I look at that picture and I just think, minutes, minutes, and our world has changed.When I read that comment I thought: Minutes, minutes? I agree with you that if someone says they see nothing it represents them being blind, like you said that could be because of darkness or other factors. If I gave the same answer as before an experienced detective may feel I was withholding information by my use of the word just. Father dies eight days after getting stuck in indoor cave at tourist attraction: Tragedy at climbing wall as Celebrity chef Jock Zonfrillo was found dead at hotel aged 46 'after flying back to Australia on his own Cookery's ultimate hellraiser dead at 46: British Masterchef host Jock Zonfrillo lost his virginity at 12, King Charles' Coronation LIVE: Late monarch's confidante leaves grace-and-favour cottage, Princess Charlotte Death of Botox and fillers as Brits seek a 'natural' look: Love Island star Molly-Mae Hague inspires huge Did the King gift the late Queen's dresser Angela Kelly a house in bid to stop another royal memoir? I know in my heart she`s not far. If it was a cover up the most important reason may have been that the foster parents didn't want to lose their other foster child as well (see also my comment of April 13 at 2:13 AM). Was/were the foster mother and/or Nanna in Nannas car while William disappeared? The use of the word just suggests minimising language as its meaning could be interpreted as only or thats all. The second just could mean that she had an inclination to make her actual knowledge of where he is, () [etc. Another update, on top of the ongoing search for remains. She has blue eyes and the cutest little nose and a great smile and her hair goes all the way down past her, like, to her belly lets say-mid waist. Do you know where he might have gone? You lot need your tin foil hats replacing, the craziness is leaking into your brains..If you put as much effort into really looking for William, rather than blaming the wrong people, he might have been found by now..Absolutely astonishing, armchair detectives at their worse! I can feel it. Does that also apply to its present tense leave or leaves?Leigh. We were just, I was out there talking with my mum and my [other daughter] soPolice Interview:P: Because you cant extinguish that love for your boy, youre caring parents - youre wondering is he okay?M: Never, never. Not only because of the parents statements but also because the kidnapper(s) would have to have been clairvoyant to know that William was there. A genuine use of the word Just can give as much away as a deceptive one if it doesnt fit in with the narrative being played out. He uses the same format when he says and [within] 5 minutes we raised the alarm. I dont find it credible that Zachary found Karlies footprints in that vast, rugged terrain. One example below -And, being a mother, I wasn't going to take her to the hospital. In analyzing the two statements, her first one (October 13, 2018) flags for deception much easier. William bonded with his foster father almost immediately, was slower to take to his foster mother but not long before he vanished had started calling her 'Mum'. When personal hygiene is found within a statement particularly when it is unnecessary, it is a strong indication that the subject is concealing information of a personal nature. On that September 12 morning, a Friday, the foster mother had encouraged William and his sister to hand draw messages to leave on their late grandfather's grave. William Tyrrell's foster mother told a NSW coroner of the moment she recalled seeing two cars parked on a nearby road the morning he . Fathers are to follow. He wouldnt go far.Here the foster father over-emphasizes arriving back and William being with him (I arrived back, I was on my way back, Id arrived back). Operator: OK. Would he have had any shoes on do you know? Kids smoke pot all the time. They know that their child was unsupervised and out of sight when he went missing (if that is what happened). Did Karlie, in her psychotic state, fire a gun? I feel like it is all becoming clearer nowThe mother JUST put him into a tree and oops he fell and she heard one sharp scream and then nothing. D had an appointment which is not unusual, he works remotely. My notes on just-Just just happened, just arrived etc.. - Here it is used to mean recentlyJust I just touched it and it broke - Here it is used to minimise actions, thats all I did I only touched itJust this one is just 100 It is being compared to something which costs moreJust - This is just what I mean - Exactly or preciselyJust - The weather is just glorious - Actually; really; positivelyJust - The arrow just missed the mark - By a narrow margin; barelyI think analysing how many possible deceptive uses of the word just the mother uses would be a good thing to do. So he's been missing since about 10:30?Foster Mother: Yeah I'd say so.If we look at the Police media interview: http://williamtyrrelldisappearance.blogspot.com/2015/10/in-their-words-william-tyrrells-parents.htmlWe see the parents asked the following question.P: When did you guys last see him?M: That morning, on the 12th at Mums place.D: About [10.15am].The father was meant to have been at a meeting and arrived home to find William gone but we see in his answer he places he last sighting of William at 10:15. Why does she think Karlie is not in the desert? The foster mother says it was not unusual (double negative) for the foster father to have an appointment because "he works remotely. Then heard nothing. She is (holding picture up) 5 foot 7hold onlets do this goodwait, there she is. The initial search went for nine days before the foster family were forced to return home to Sydney. Isn't she supposed to speak from memory? She said she didnt realize until after William went missing that the two cars were gone:I know in hindsight that they werent there but whilst I was searching I didnt. Flooding?Environmental conditions: Does the missing person suffer from adult autism, or has mental retardation? This comment has been removed by the author. This service may include material from Agence France-Presse (AFP), APTN, Reuters, AAP, CNN and the BBC World Service which is copyright and cannot be reproduced. The mother is batshit crazy and the fakest thing I've ever seen.I did notice the mother in the 60 minutes thing say that William wandered around the house and that she called out to him "Do you see Daddy's car" and that William then disappeared. Possible kidnappers had no way of knowing if and when an opportunity would arise to kidnap William. She is now trying to tell us that William went missing at exactly the same time as father was pulling up in his car.
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